I've been reviewing my plans on what to do next. I originally wanted to do a LP copy with parts from Dragon Mountain and then probably do a V as a kind of art piece, but the idea of doing an LP with a bolt on neck has always bugged me a little. I noticed that Dragon Mountain had stopped listing the V's on ebay so i thought I might see what else was out there and I found this at byoguitar.com. I've always liked Explorers better than V's, so I was kind of excited by it. It's also a set neck, and they have an LP kit too that's set neck. So I think the new plan is to order an Explorer kit and try it, and if I can get it put together right and finished properly then that's the way I'll go. If not I'll just buy the prefinished bolt-on parts and do what works.
The finish on the explorer will be black, I found this ebonizing process I would like to try here. I am not at all interested in trying to spray paints and laquers, so all my finishes are going to be things that can be brushed or rubbed on. The humbuckers are going to need chrome covers.
For the LP if I'm finishing myself I'll try and get as close to this, that's what I was trying to get to when I chose the original LP design in burgundy from Dragon Mountain.
A summary of my adventures in finding out about guitar finishing to follow.
Thursday, June 24, 2010
Success!
I re-drilled the neck and bolted it on and it worked, everything lined up nice. Here were the Steps:
1) Clamped the neck to the body and ran both e-strings and got them taught.
2) Maneuvered the neck in the clamp until the strings were even over the pickup poles and in from the edges of the of the fretboard.
3) Screwed the supplied screws through the body holes into the neck to mark positions.
4) Using a drill press drilled new holes in 2 passes, with a 1/16" bit and then 5/32". I was pretty concerned about the one edge of neck because the holes were very close, but it worked ok
5) Bolt the neck on using the coarse screws, just needed a T-driver, not a screw gun to get them in
6) Put the e-strings back on and everything lined up again perfect!
I even plugged it into an amp and got sound and not a ridiculous amount of hum, so that seems to be good as well.
Impressions and next steps:
There is too much gap around the neck in the pocket. I'll be adding some veneer in the pocket to tighten that up hopefully, though it might need more than 1 layer and that doesn't seem like fun.
Now that the neck is in and I can hold it in the body it definitely feels like the "too thick" strat necks that I never loved, but the fretboard is nice and flat unlike most on strats I have played, and that's the more important part to me. Up at the nut it also doesn't feel overly tight between the strings.
The grooves are cut very low on a cursory check. The action is low already. This of course will all change when I actually get into the setup, but i don't think i'm going to have a lot of meat to file down the nut if necessary.
No pictures of the procedure as I left the camera at work, but I don't think drill presses are really that exciting.
Thursday, June 17, 2010
Pink Strat Update
The body is done, that was a snap. I shielded everything again. The biggest issue was trying to figure out why the middle pickup would short out when i screwed down the pickguard but not at any other time? Turns out that the connector on the 5-way switch was shorting out on on the shielding, but only when the pickguard was screwed down! Electrical tape solved that problem.
When I went to bolt on the neck to the body I discovered that the holes didn't line up, which apparently is common, so i have doweled the holes and am just waiting a couple of days for the glue to dry before i drill new holes. I also had to shave the pickguard down a little.
When I went to bolt on the neck to the body I discovered that the holes didn't line up, which apparently is common, so i have doweled the holes and am just waiting a couple of days for the glue to dry before i drill new holes. I also had to shave the pickguard down a little.
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
The Epic Re-Wiring of a Epiphone Les Paul Special II
All right epic is probably a bit much, how about we just settle for a titanic battle between myself and a medusa-like collection of wires in a constricted battlefield. Well in the end I was victorious, and I can bring you the story with some pictures!
First I pulled all the old stuff out of the guitar:
Then I shielded it with conductive copper tape:
I think the shielding was actually the funnest part of this whole project. The stuff is cheap ($10 for 10ft of 3" wide) and flexible and super thin. You can pile it 4 or 5 layers deep in places to get it to do what you want and it doesn't take any extra room.
This first part was all done in about 5 hours of one night, maybe even not that long.
After that the wiring started. Remember I was taking this from a simple 1 tone 1 volume toggle factory setup to a 2 push/pull pot with full separated ground setup done by a rookie. If I have one word of advice on this, don't make your first project one where you are trying to stuff 3x the intended number of wire into a very tight space.
Here's what it looks like before I started:
Here's what it looked like when i was done:
And actually I added at least one wire after this picture was taken. i didn't quite realize how many more wires you would end up using when you don't just ground everything to the pots.
I started by pre-wiring as much of it as possible outside of the cavity, that's everything but connecting the pickups in this case. I got it all in and plugged it in and HUM!!! Except when I pulled out the switch of the volume pot, then i got some fairly clean signal. From their it was a looonnggg process of basically re-doing everything until i found the problems, which turned out to be every connection. Some of them 3x.
The list of things I fixed and learned between a lot of hum and working guitar were:
1. Everything gets grounded
2. Don't ground the pickups to the body if you have only one ground wire, ground it to the output, even if nobody seems to tell you this anywhere
3. Ground the output to the body with a wire, don't rely on the copper shielding, even if that works for the pot bodies.
4. Butt connectors and ring terminals are your friends
5. Soldering to an output jack sucks
6. Re-use the pickup bezels that came with the guitar, even if the new ones look like an exact match, they probably don't
7. Meter the pickups if they are 4 or 5 wire humbuckers so you know exactly what you are dealing with. I found out that the bridge pickup ground was actually coming off the north coil instead of the south. It's easy to do and you'll know exactly which wire is which.
The last step to making work was actually point 3 above. I actually got it to the point where it was pretty much working properly except the tone knob, in that when you turned it down it increased it turned up the hum!
The only complaint I have now is that when i hook it up to my toneport and use a lot of distortion splitting the bridge pickup results in an unusable amount of hum. I don't think there is anything I can do about this though, as it's not a problem with lower setting of distortion or through an amp.
The pickups themselves don't really sound that much different from what was in there originally, though the sound does seem "crisper". It definitely seems louder now though. The biggest change is the tone knob now actually does something, 0-10 there is a noticeable effect. This is the first guitar I have ever owned where I can say that. I think this is a function of using A500K pots and not the B500K that came with the guitar, not the pickups. Maybe the capacitor. I'll have to see when I work on the Peavey if I notice something similar.
A post comparing the sound before and after will follow.
In the end I'm very happy with the result, and I learned a lot, and it looks and sounds exactly like I wanted it too.
Wednesday, May 26, 2010
Exciting stuff happening
All the parts for the pink strat are on order this weekend and are supposed to have shipped. I ordered a standard drop in 3-pickup kit and will re-wire and shield it later so i have some things to compare.
I'm about 1/2 way through re-wiring the Epi Les Paul with new pickups and push/pull pots. I dis-assembled it and shielded everything and have gotten all the wiring done that can be done outside the body. I recorded how it sounded original and will compare when I have it re-wired with some new recording of the same things.
Still haven't gotten any 9v batteries.
I'm about 1/2 way through re-wiring the Epi Les Paul with new pickups and push/pull pots. I dis-assembled it and shielded everything and have gotten all the wiring done that can be done outside the body. I recorded how it sounded original and will compare when I have it re-wired with some new recording of the same things.
Still haven't gotten any 9v batteries.
Labels:
Epi Les Paul II,
Ordering,
Strat Plan
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Big Things
Went to A1 parts and bought a pile of stuff built a runoffgroove.com ruby. Well sort of I put it all together and then discovered i didn't have any working 9V batteries. Or at least I don't think I did, the 9Vs I had wouldn't power anything else either. Funny I remember everything running on 9V when I was a kid and now it seems nothing does.
Finally got the Zebra Pickups, and am ordering the stuff for the pink strat now. But I can't do anything more till next week as I have to go out of town for the long weekend. Might be back on monday afternoon though and maybe put the zebras in the Epi. Maybe I'll even have some sound of a working Ruby.
Finally got the Zebra Pickups, and am ordering the stuff for the pink strat now. But I can't do anything more till next week as I have to go out of town for the long weekend. Might be back on monday afternoon though and maybe put the zebras in the Epi. Maybe I'll even have some sound of a working Ruby.
Friday, May 7, 2010
The waiting is the hardest part!
Where are my parts!
I am starting to look into building a simple overdrive pedal just to do something and start getting some practice with my soldering.
I am starting to look into building a simple overdrive pedal just to do something and start getting some practice with my soldering.
Thursday, April 29, 2010
More parts on order
I ordered a superswitch and some push/pull pots for the tracer re-wiring. Not sure if maybe I want to go with adding series/parallel switch for the humbucker to see what that sounds like.
Sunday, April 25, 2010
Wiring Plans
Been looking at the wiring plans at GuitarElectronics.com and at some of the info here at 1728.com I think I have settled on some plans. One of the interesting things I ran into on my travels was the "guitar solo switch" to be found here, this is exactly the kind of thing I've been looking for and if it sounds good I'm going to try and use it in all my wirings.
Epi Les Paul: Nothing changes here for now, keep the look the same and put a coil tap/split on each knob. If I don't find much use for splitting the neck, i might rewire for the solo switch instead later on. There are a bunch of other things to try here.
Peavey Tracer: This is my old hair band guitar from the late 80's.
Pretty much exactly as shown. HSS with a 5-way and a coil tap for the bridge. The fairly cheap floyd rose is a bit of a pain and really needs to be setup properly again. It was a damn good guitar for getting any sound for any style when I played 7 days a week and got to know it like the back of my hand. But now that i just sit in my basement and play a couple of times a week it's not so much fun. hence the search for a simpler LP type guitar. So I have decided to open it up and practice some wiring on it. I'm going to go with this. I get to play with a superswitch and I think I'll add the guitar solo circuit for the mini toggle. This wiring will give me most of the sounds I liked plus a neck bridge i never had. Later I'll think about adding an sc rail humbucker at the neck. More practice for the LP.
Pink Strat: I'm ordering a pre-wired sss harness for this so I think I'm just going to make these changes and add a 2nd pp pot for the guitar solo circuit. I am imagining this will help me get my Hendrix fix. I might have to buy an amp to really get the feedback going.
LP: With all the practice I build up from the above projects I'm hoping not to have any trouble building the full Jimmy Page from scratch. Also I'm going to be in NJ for a week in July, so I'll probably have the stuff shipped there as it will save me $70 buck or so in shipping.
So those are the plans for now, I'll see how long I can keep them.
Epi Les Paul: Nothing changes here for now, keep the look the same and put a coil tap/split on each knob. If I don't find much use for splitting the neck, i might rewire for the solo switch instead later on. There are a bunch of other things to try here.
Peavey Tracer: This is my old hair band guitar from the late 80's.
Pretty much exactly as shown. HSS with a 5-way and a coil tap for the bridge. The fairly cheap floyd rose is a bit of a pain and really needs to be setup properly again. It was a damn good guitar for getting any sound for any style when I played 7 days a week and got to know it like the back of my hand. But now that i just sit in my basement and play a couple of times a week it's not so much fun. hence the search for a simpler LP type guitar. So I have decided to open it up and practice some wiring on it. I'm going to go with this. I get to play with a superswitch and I think I'll add the guitar solo circuit for the mini toggle. This wiring will give me most of the sounds I liked plus a neck bridge i never had. Later I'll think about adding an sc rail humbucker at the neck. More practice for the LP.
Pink Strat: I'm ordering a pre-wired sss harness for this so I think I'm just going to make these changes and add a 2nd pp pot for the guitar solo circuit. I am imagining this will help me get my Hendrix fix. I might have to buy an amp to really get the feedback going.
LP: With all the practice I build up from the above projects I'm hoping not to have any trouble building the full Jimmy Page from scratch. Also I'm going to be in NJ for a week in July, so I'll probably have the stuff shipped there as it will save me $70 buck or so in shipping.
So those are the plans for now, I'll see how long I can keep them.
Labels:
Electronics,
Epi Les Paul II,
LP Plan,
Peavy Tracer,
Strat Plan
Saturday, April 24, 2010
Potential Change of Plans
The wife was bugging me that if I was making a guitar that I wanted she wanted me to make a pink guitar for her (even though she doesn't play). I had noticed a pink LP on magic dragon before but then i noticed this. Now pink is not my favorite colour, not by a long shot, and I would have no interest in playing a pink LP, but it got me thinking. You get a lot of stuff for free with this body (i guess they didn't sell, imagine that!), and I can build a strat for about 2/3 the price as one of his LPs. At the same time it's a hell of a lot easier to wire a strat than a LP, and I can mess around easily with a lot of different wirings and learn some things. This isn't that bad, especially if I get to put 3 humbuckers in it.
Well if I'm sitting in my basement I guess.
Well if I'm sitting in my basement I guess.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Parts on order
The pickups and the pots were ordered today. Went by A1 electronics, obviously I'll be able to get what I need there but I better go with a list and looking for help.
Labels:
A1 Parts,
Epi Les Paul II,
Ordering
Monday, April 19, 2010
Parts to be ordered
A set of Wilkinson Zebras and some push/pull pots are going on order this week, very exciting, so the Epi LP Special II will soon be getting some new sounds if I don't mess it up. Lots of pictures of the original wiring to be taken, and I've got to get some shielding supples and a soldering Iron. A1 Parts is supposed to be a good local source.
Also on the lookout for a cheap used strat copy for a test bed idea i have and a cheap source of sc pickups.
Also on the lookout for a cheap used strat copy for a test bed idea i have and a cheap source of sc pickups.
Labels:
A1 Parts,
Epi Les Paul II,
Ordering
Wiring Thoughts
Since I've chosen to do no finishing myself, the only really big single part of the project where I can really have some fun is wiring. So I've looked into the options and am seriously thinking of trying out the "Jimmy Page Wiring" where all 4 pots are push/pull and give you all kinds of crazy options - 20 some odd in total I think. At first this seemed pretty daunting, but then I found this page at the New England Luthiers site. It's pretty much every step laid out, and they have even modified the standard layout so you aren't grounding to the backs of the pots, which while apparently the traditional method is not the best method.
Now I have never wired a guitar, so I don't think I'll make my first attempt this project. I was planning on putting some of the Zebras I want to use for this project into my son's Epi Les Paul Special II. So why not add a couple of push/pull pots in and make them splittable? I found a cheap source for the pots on ebay, and a wiring diagram at GuitarElectronics.com. They actually have a ton of free diagrams with all the options nicely listed. Including the Jimmy Page.
So it looks like I'm ordering some zebras and pots this week to get started on a nice little mini project! Will probably be doing some shielding on the Epi as well so I can get started on practicing that.
Now I have never wired a guitar, so I don't think I'll make my first attempt this project. I was planning on putting some of the Zebras I want to use for this project into my son's Epi Les Paul Special II. So why not add a couple of push/pull pots in and make them splittable? I found a cheap source for the pots on ebay, and a wiring diagram at GuitarElectronics.com. They actually have a ton of free diagrams with all the options nicely listed. Including the Jimmy Page.
So it looks like I'm ordering some zebras and pots this week to get started on a nice little mini project! Will probably be doing some shielding on the Epi as well so I can get started on practicing that.
Labels:
Electronics,
Epi Les Paul II,
Guitar Electronics
Where things stand April 18, 2010
I've already done a lot of work and been through a lot of options and I believe I have a plan. I'm not going to go through what I have what I have investigated and rejected, just what the plan is today.
Body and Neck: magicdragononline Dragon Mountain Les Paul copy
This guy has pretty decent looking finished parts available for Les Paul, SG, Flying Vee, Stratocaster and Telecaster copies. Finish choices aren't huge but pretty variable. Apparently he shuffles through different ones. There is no separate webpage I can find only the ebay store linked above. There are some reviews at various places online and nobody really has anything bad to say. In fact most comments seem to be "Surprisingly good despite x/y/z". Parts are finished which is good because i don't have the patience or space to do a proper finishing job, and I'm not going to pay somebody else to do it.
I have settled after much discussion with the wife on a non-traditional bound glossy burgundy body with a matching neck. I'm going to go with basically ivory plastics and black hardware, which are all available from the same source and are guaranteed compatible. Using this online utility called Kisekae by Yajima String Works I've been able to put together what I think is a pretty good idea of what it will look like:
This is actually a really good utility. You can adjust pretty much everything but the gloss as far as I can figure out. There even several are options to build your own finishes and components.
Electronics: Wilkinson Zebras
I love that classic look, think it goes well with the design and they are pretty readily available on ebay at a really good price. Dragon Mountain doesn't have Zebra pickups available, and the ones available from the bigger name companies are pretty expensive by comparison. Again I can't find many reviews, and what I do find is very positive. Also they are a 4-wire model so I can mess around with tapping, splitting, phase etc...
Now that I have all that worked out I just need to get everything on order, got to wait a little bit for that. When you order the Dragon Mountain stuff the body and neck are shipped separately, so you are going to pay for shipping each time, though the small parts ship free. This is actually ok as you can order the body, get it all done, and then order the neck.
Next i need to figure out what I want to do for my next project after this one. I'm thinking a strat copy with rail single coil humbuckers...
Body and Neck: magicdragononline Dragon Mountain Les Paul copy
This guy has pretty decent looking finished parts available for Les Paul, SG, Flying Vee, Stratocaster and Telecaster copies. Finish choices aren't huge but pretty variable. Apparently he shuffles through different ones. There is no separate webpage I can find only the ebay store linked above. There are some reviews at various places online and nobody really has anything bad to say. In fact most comments seem to be "Surprisingly good despite x/y/z". Parts are finished which is good because i don't have the patience or space to do a proper finishing job, and I'm not going to pay somebody else to do it.
I have settled after much discussion with the wife on a non-traditional bound glossy burgundy body with a matching neck. I'm going to go with basically ivory plastics and black hardware, which are all available from the same source and are guaranteed compatible. Using this online utility called Kisekae by Yajima String Works I've been able to put together what I think is a pretty good idea of what it will look like:
This is actually a really good utility. You can adjust pretty much everything but the gloss as far as I can figure out. There even several are options to build your own finishes and components.
Electronics: Wilkinson Zebras
I love that classic look, think it goes well with the design and they are pretty readily available on ebay at a really good price. Dragon Mountain doesn't have Zebra pickups available, and the ones available from the bigger name companies are pretty expensive by comparison. Again I can't find many reviews, and what I do find is very positive. Also they are a 4-wire model so I can mess around with tapping, splitting, phase etc...
Now that I have all that worked out I just need to get everything on order, got to wait a little bit for that. When you order the Dragon Mountain stuff the body and neck are shipped separately, so you are going to pay for shipping each time, though the small parts ship free. This is actually ok as you can order the body, get it all done, and then order the neck.
Next i need to figure out what I want to do for my next project after this one. I'm thinking a strat copy with rail single coil humbuckers...
Labels:
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Electronics,
Neck,
Pickups,
Wilkinson,
YSW
Sunday, April 18, 2010
Welcome to the dPc Do it Yourself Guitar Blog!
I have always wanted to build my own guitar, as I've played (poorly) for years and never been able to afford quite what I wanted. Recently I wanted to get my son playing so I started looking into cheap electrics. As well as discovering that cheap instruments are a hell of a lot better than they were when I was a kid, I have also discovered that in the internet/ebay age the idea of building your own guitar isn't as scary/expensive as it once was. There are lots of options to get the parts you want, and lots of places to learn about what you need to do.
Keeping track of all the information I was collecting was turning out to be a little difficult, so I thought why not start a blog. I can keep track of all the information I'm collecting as well as keep track of my progress. And if I can get some pictures into this thing it might even be valuable.
Keeping track of all the information I was collecting was turning out to be a little difficult, so I thought why not start a blog. I can keep track of all the information I'm collecting as well as keep track of my progress. And if I can get some pictures into this thing it might even be valuable.
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